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Post by Dharma_Albion on Aug 6, 2012 14:31:31 GMT
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Post by Totally Tropical Tiesto on Aug 6, 2012 14:49:12 GMT
One voice.......
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Post by beano on Aug 6, 2012 15:04:09 GMT
Revenge of the backbenchers and right wingers was always going to screw Cameron sooner or later, Clegg on the other hand knows he is doomed once the next election comes around.
Just when everyone in the Country thought that it could not be more of a shambles, Ed Miliband and Ed Balls peep around the stage curtain
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Post by cunninghamismagic on Aug 6, 2012 15:31:37 GMT
Revenge of the backbenchers and right wingers was always going to screw Cameron sooner or later, Clegg on the other hand knows he is doomed once the next election comes around. Just when everyone in the Country thought that it could not be more of a shambles, Ed Miliband and Ed Balls peep around the stage curtain Brutal fuggers the Tory back-benchers. They did for John Major. |
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Post by Shep on Aug 6, 2012 21:38:25 GMT
Some good analysis of the situation by the BBC's political editor just now.   |
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Post by Camp Freddy on Aug 6, 2012 21:40:03 GMT
Some good analysis of the situation by the BBC's political editor just now. Ah, the BBC's impartial political editor... |
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Post by secondtimer on Aug 6, 2012 21:48:05 GMT
They should hire Trevor Kavanagh
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Post by Lumpmaster Heath on Aug 6, 2012 22:29:38 GMT
Britain fugged. Europe fugged. Planet fugged. Roll on mars expedition.
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Post by Astlebridge on Aug 7, 2012 5:53:32 GMT
They should hire Graham Kavanagh +1 Attachments:
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Post by Bibbel on Aug 7, 2012 5:56:01 GMT
It's a little late for Clegg to grow a pair of Kleggs.
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Post by Dharma_Albion on Aug 7, 2012 7:35:15 GMT
It's a little late for Clegg to grow a pair of Kleggs. Ypou saying that the public really wanted him to stand up for the NHS rather than Lords Reform pal? This episode reeks of why politics should be free of politicians - the only time he's grown a pair over the past two years is over an issue that is all about party self interest. Given the kicking the country's getting at the moment I could not give a fuck about: a) Consituency Boundaries b) Lords Reform c) Gay marriage |
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Post by Kiskos on Aug 7, 2012 9:41:09 GMT
an example of what a complete twat Clegg is. He is in deep deep shit and now needs to start saying we are different from the evil Tories so vote for us at the next election - where they stand every chance of being wiped out of existence. Let's hope so.
The deserving poor who are currently suffering from lack of job opportunities due to Thatcher's policies of 30 years ago want a job and don't give a fuck about the House of Lords. Not having tattoos like a road map of Paris across their neck and a face full of metal studs and a baseball cap welded backwards to their head and two 15 year old pregnant girlfriends might help their cause. But it is easier to blame Thatcher. Why have we got superb athletes from the same generation of kids?
Secondly, to have a major press conference to express his anger and stamp his little feet and scweam and scweam until he is sick, in the middle of these brilliant Olympics where people who really make a difference to their own lives and the lives and well being of the nation following years of selfless dedication to their sport, is obscene. He should be shot for this self indulgent childish outburst of petulence. Look at me, I'm important. Tosser.
Thirdly, Thatcher did more to destroy the sporting heritage of the country by making schools sell their playing fields to fucking Tescos and Sainsburys. That's why private education has contributed so much to the medal table. If you go to a state school your former playing field is now a car park.
All politicians are complete twats.
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Post by The Nation of Ulysses on Aug 7, 2012 9:45:04 GMT
11 posts on a Fred about the Tories before Thatcher was mentioned?
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Post by Camp Freddy on Aug 7, 2012 9:51:03 GMT
It's a little late for Clegg to grow a pair of Kleggs. Ypou saying that the public really wanted him to stand up for the NHS rather than Lords Reform pal? This episode reeks of why politics should be free of politicians - the only time he's grown a pair over the past two years is over an issue that is all about party self interest. Given the kicking the country's getting at the moment I could not give a fuck about: a) Consituency Boundaries b) Lords Reform c) Gay marriage Constituency boundaries is actually a huge issue. Amalgamating inner city constituencies and splitting rural ones is gerrymandering plain and simple. How exactly does redusing the number of MPs improve the democratic process? It doesn't, it's a means of rigging the ballot and it stinks. |
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Post by Dharma_Albion on Aug 7, 2012 9:54:35 GMT
Ypou saying that the public really wanted him to stand up for the NHS rather than Lords Reform pal? This episode reeks of why politics should be free of politicians - the only time he's grown a pair over the past two years is over an issue that is all about party self interest. Given the kicking the country's getting at the moment I could not give a fuck about: a) Consituency Boundaries b) Lords Reform c) Gay marriage Constituency boundaries is actually a huge issue. Amalgamating inner city constituencies and splitting rural ones is gerrymandering plain and simple. How exactly does redusing the number of MPs improve the democratic process? It doesn't, it's a means of rigging the ballot and it stinks. Which is why I don't care about it not getting through. Admittedly, I could have put that better. Mea culpa. |
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Post by astlegates on Aug 7, 2012 10:25:37 GMT
Ypou saying that the public really wanted him to stand up for the NHS rather than Lords Reform pal? This episode reeks of why politics should be free of politicians - the only time he's grown a pair over the past two years is over an issue that is all about party self interest. Given the kicking the country's getting at the moment I could not give a fuck about: a) Consituency Boundaries b) Lords Reform c) Gay marriage Constituency boundaries is actually a huge issue. Amalgamating inner city constituencies and splitting rural ones is gerrymandering plain and simple. How exactly does redusing the number of MPs improve the democratic process? It doesn't, it's a means of rigging the ballot and it stinks. isn't boundary change over-due? some contituencies in the south where there are far more voters than in the north or scotland or wales. very un-democratic at the moment |
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 10:42:07 GMT
Ypou saying that the public really wanted him to stand up for the NHS rather than Lords Reform pal? This episode reeks of why politics should be free of politicians - the only time he's grown a pair over the past two years is over an issue that is all about party self interest. Given the kicking the country's getting at the moment I could not give a fuck about: a) Consituency Boundaries b) Lords Reform c) Gay marriage Constituency boundaries is actually a huge issue. Amalgamating inner city constituencies and splitting rural ones is gerrymandering plain and simple. How exactly does redusing the number of MPs improve the democratic process? It doesn't, it's a means of rigging the ballot and it stinks. +1 to Soph Fred - you've been listening too much to Simon Hughes (is he 'out' yet?) Sod boundary changes, my beef is with Scotch and Welsh MPs having the right to vote on legislation which affects England but doesn't affect their countries. If you want a debate about the democratic process - what about that one? Numbers of MPs and boundaries are, compared with the West Lothian question, utter trivia. |
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Post by Camp Freddy on Aug 7, 2012 11:10:32 GMT
Simon Hughes isn't someone that I would ever listen to. If he told me that it was raining outside, I'd stick me hand out of the window to check.
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 11:20:23 GMT
Simon Hughes isn't someone that I would ever listen to. If he told me that it was raining outside, I'd stick me hand out of the window to check. Arf. Your line of argument on reducing numbers of MPs does sound similarly incoherent to his. Maybe you're closer ideological bedfellows than you think.. |
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Post by Camp Freddy on Aug 7, 2012 11:29:57 GMT
The whole representative democracy charade is a farce. Put any aspect under the microscope and it looks ridiculous.
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 11:34:03 GMT
The whole representative democracy charade is a farce. Put any aspect under the microscope and it looks ridiculous. Agreed. Thread Ends. |
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Post by secondtimer on Aug 7, 2012 12:12:08 GMT
As long as they don't move ours and plop Baroness Warsi in there for election
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Post by Jammin on Aug 7, 2012 12:14:58 GMT
Confucius say: "Build your house from shit. Roof drop on yed."
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Post by Bibbel on Aug 8, 2012 11:03:17 GMT
Returning to the topic, I don't see where Clegg has to go. If he stays there will be trouble, if...
If the Libs made Cable leader and then left the coalition, things might change; there could be a bounce in the polls.
Despite Libs providing the greatest disappointment I can recall, I see no advantage in them being eviscerated - only fewer types of shits to choose between.
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Post by Fido on Aug 8, 2012 11:06:57 GMT
This is the only possible escape route for the yellas.
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Post by Dharma_Albion on Aug 8, 2012 11:11:21 GMT
only fewer types of shits to choose between. That's the nail on the yed there mon. Whilst this government are reprehensible the thought of two centre-right parties being the only choice worries me and, unless the Lib Dems or Greens make some serious ground there will be no outlet for the left. |
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Post by bobmonkhouseclique on Aug 8, 2012 12:10:18 GMT
an example of what a complete twat Clegg is. He is in deep deep shit and now needs to start saying we are different from the evil Tories so vote for us at the next election - where they stand every chance of being wiped out of existence. Let's hope so. The deserving poor who are currently suffering from lack of job opportunities due to Thatcher's policies of 30 years ago want a job and don't give a fuck about the House of Lords. Not having tattoos like a road map of Paris across their neck and a face full of metal studs and a baseball cap welded backwards to their head and two 15 year old pregnant girlfriends might help their cause. But it is easier to blame Thatcher. Why have we got superb athletes from the same generation of kids? Secondly, to have a major press conference to express his anger and stamp his little feet and scweam and scweam until he is sick, in the middle of these brilliant Olympics where people who really make a difference to their own lives and the lives and well being of the nation following years of selfless dedication to their sport, is obscene. He should be shot for this self indulgent childish outburst of petulence. Look at me, I'm important. Tosser. Thirdly, Thatcher did more to destroy the sporting heritage of the country by making schools sell their playing fields to fucking Tescos and Sainsburys. That's why private education has contributed so much to the medal table. If you go to a state school your former playing field is now a car park. All politicians are complete twats. "The deserving poor " Ah we are back in 1834 Lord Melbourne Your last line pretty much sums it up for me too |
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Post by Prothero on Aug 8, 2012 21:45:42 GMT
I don't see where Clegg has to go. It's unlikely he'll be in Parliament after the next election anyway, unless there's a huge shift of opinion in Sheffield Hallam. |
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Post by gzbaggy on Aug 9, 2012 2:00:41 GMT
I am sure the good people of Sheffield Hallam "Wo n't be fooled again"
Doubtless he is lining up his MEP seat in Holland or Spain, using his family connections
Is he still keeping quiet about his wifes dealings with Cadburys?
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Post by astle9 on Aug 9, 2012 6:23:15 GMT
whoever leads it makes no difference to me now i will never vote lib dem again locally or nationally, they signed a pledge however naive that was and then screwed those who we hope for to provide a brighter future into paying 3 times the previous amount, that is just wrong.
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