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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 11:33:24 GMT
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Post by Tenacious S on Aug 7, 2012 17:07:48 GMT
Underfunding and under-resourcing of the NHS coupled to an ideological belief that outsourcing and privatisation can adequately deliver serviceswhere profit generation us jig the primary priority |
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 18:52:53 GMT
Or looking at it another way, inefficient allocation of unprecedented resources in the state sector and an inability to procure or monitor a contract.
Ideology doesn't always have to come into it.
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Post by Camp Freddy on Aug 7, 2012 19:12:23 GMT
If you agree a contract with someone and they fail to fulfil their obligations, would you say "yup, that's all my fault"? That's how you've apportioned blame there.
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Post by HawkingsHalfpipe on Aug 7, 2012 19:30:51 GMT
Perhaps Camelot should sort it with some of their 50% profit.
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Post by birdman1811 on Aug 7, 2012 19:31:49 GMT
My partner works in the care industry, or well has and will be after Maternity.
From her experience almost all these problems are caused by people running homes and care centres that prioritise profit over care. That is ALWAYS going to be the case so long as these are privatised, no business person is going to run a business without the aim of making money. That isn't always the case of course, the mother of a friend of mine runs a care home for adults with learning disabilities that my Partner has had contact with. She does it solely for the love of care, she is a devout Christian (Who allowed her children to grow up as they wanted to, so one of the few religious people I have total respect for.) And therefore any money made goes straight back into the home, her husband earns the living for the family at work. She has outstanding reports all the time, and her clients are very happy and have a great quality of life. Sadly working to those demands has started to make it impossible to do with the new rules and regulations, had to be introduced due to scum as above, that has meant she may need to sell the business. When these changes hit the big businesses running the care homes as above, no way will their profits drop, just the standard of care.
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Post by Camp Freddy on Aug 7, 2012 20:50:17 GMT
Perhaps Camelot should sort it with some of their 50% profit. I would join in your hearty laughter if I could work out how that was funny. |
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Post by bobmonkhouseclique on Aug 7, 2012 21:23:32 GMT
Making a profit out of anyone vulnerable, poor, elderly or sick is disgusting. That this Right wing vile practice is tolerated at all by British subjects should be a cause for hanging heads in shame.
That said PCT commissioners are absolutely fucking clueless and for too long have literally operated a "send us the bill" type of commissioning. They are still fucking do it.
One exception to this that we all know and love of course
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 21:27:19 GMT
If you agree a contract with someone and they fail to fulfil their obligations, would you say "yup, that's all my fault"? That's how you've apportioned blame there. That's a bit of a one-eyed comment. I said procure or MONITOR. If you don't monitor a contract to make sure your contractor is performing to an SLA, as a client you are at least partly culpable. If you don't procure it well enough in the first place, well... |
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 21:29:53 GMT
That this Right wing vile practice is tolerated at all by British subjects should be a cause for hanging heads in shame. You could always vote Lab..., oh...... |
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Post by secondtimer on Aug 7, 2012 21:33:55 GMT
Is that one at Bristol is the one featured on Panorama
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 21:36:20 GMT
Is that one at Bristol is the one featured on Panorama The same |
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Post by secondtimer on Aug 7, 2012 21:37:58 GMT
Were they all convicted ?
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Post by bobmonkhouseclique on Aug 7, 2012 21:38:14 GMT
Yes them labour fucktards love it as much as the Tories, PFI, world class commissioning ( ha fuckin ha). The first nhs hospital to go private was labours doing.
Public sector isn't all wonderful and a lot of poor care is provided there - but the quality is generally better than the private sector. Take care homes for old people for example
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Post by bobmonkhouseclique on Aug 7, 2012 21:40:36 GMT
Were they all convicted ?[/quote Fuckin ell have a look at a news site insteadof playing 20 questions on here Or don't you have access to the Internet? |
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 21:41:12 GMT
Were they all convicted ? 11 awaiting sentence |
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Post by bobmonkhouseclique on Aug 7, 2012 21:42:34 GMT
If you agree a contract with someone and they fail to fulfil their obligations, would you say "yup, that's all my fault"? That's how you've apportioned blame there. That's a bit of a one-eyed comment. I said procure or MONITOR. If you don't monitor a contract to make sure your contractor is performing to an SLA, as a client you are at least partly culpable. If you don't procure it well enough in the first place, well... Don't mention MONITOR to NHS staff The DH stormtroopers branch. Make NHS staff quake and shit their pants |
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Post by Prothero on Aug 7, 2012 21:42:48 GMT
Yes them labour fucktards love it So how come it's ? Shite practice is shite practice. |
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Post by secondtimer on Aug 7, 2012 21:51:17 GMT
Were they all convicted ?[/quote Fuckin ell have a look at a news site insteadof playing 20 questions on here Or don't you have access to the Internet? Learn to quote Or do you not have the knowledge |
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Post by secondtimer on Aug 7, 2012 21:52:23 GMT
Were they all convicted ? 11 awaiting sentence I thought the bloke who was caught sitting on the one lad had done some time already |
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Post by bobmonkhouseclique on Aug 7, 2012 21:54:34 GMT
Yes them labour fucktards love it So how come it's ? Shite practice is shite practice. Well the labour party are simply the Tory party mark 2 |
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Post by bobmonkhouseclique on Aug 7, 2012 21:55:56 GMT
I thought the bloke who was caught sitting on the one lad had done some time already Fuckin ell have a look at a news site insteadof playing 20 questions on here Or do you not have access to the Internet? 17 questions to go Then you'll have to have a guess |
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Post by secondtimer on Aug 7, 2012 22:06:41 GMT
Are you Ghengis Kahn ?
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Post by HawkingsHalfpipe on Aug 7, 2012 22:07:10 GMT
Perhaps Camelot should sort it with some of their 50% profit. I would join in your hearty laughter if I could work out how that was funny. Great comeback. |
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Post by Camp Freddy on Aug 7, 2012 22:13:52 GMT
Yep, it's been a humourless exchange all round and I'm embarrassed that you dragged me into it playing silly fuckers.
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Post by HawkingsHalfpipe on Aug 7, 2012 22:26:39 GMT
Yep, it's been a humourless exchange all round and I'm embarrassed that you dragged me into it playing silly fuckers. If the cap fits. It's probably too big though. |
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